[Egyptian] Testing hieroglyphic web fonts on your web browser

[Bob Richmond]

Hi So

Like I&E demo font I circulated in July, I’m using heqat-number code points for the control characters because OpenType rendering usually requires fake control characters to be in the defined Egyptian Hieroglyphs block at U+13000 – U+1342E. I can’t use Plane 15 characters. A necessary evil and one we are probably stuck with for a good  until rare quadrat encoding is sorted out to enable approval of proper control characters.

MdC does not define Heqat-numbers as units so this fudge doesn’t usually give grief in carefully controlled scenarios.

Bob


From: So Miyagawa<mailto:runa.uei at gmail.com>
Sent: 27 September 2016 10:28
To: Egyptian Hieroglyphs in the UCS<mailto:egyptian at evertype.com>
Subject: Re: [Egyptian] Testing hieroglyphic web fonts on your web browser

Thanks Bob,

That's cool. So, you made a web font for Hieroglyphic Egyptian Unicode, right? Coptic SCRIPTORIUM, which I'm working for, developed the web font version of Antinoou the Coptic font. It has been really beneficial to our web corpus because the users do not need a specific Coptic Unicode font in their local environments if you use the web font on your homepage.

I have a question: what does the Unicode character like three circles do? it does not appear in the surface text on the browser but exists in the code as the photo below. Does it function as an operator of the vertical arrangement? Seemingly it does. Is it your own development?
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Best,
So

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So Miyagawa
[soː mijɑˈgɑwɑ]

Georg-August-Universität Göttingen (Egyptology &
Coptology, Ph.D. candidate), SFB1136 "Bildung und Religion in Kulturen
des Mittelmeerraums und seiner Umwelt
von der Antike bis zum Mittelalter und
zum Klassischen Islam" (Research Fellow), KELLIA (Research Fellow),
Coptic SCRIPTORIUM (Research Member), Unicode Consortium (Student Member)
Kyoto University (Linguistics, Ph.D. candidate)

SFB1136: https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/531081.html
CV: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HhhKovsJzqZQGCn6W1oNweqyqKYUfUvFTxAlStKICdM/edit?usp=sharing
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וַיִּמְצָא מֶלֶךְ-אַשּׁוּר בְּהוֹשֵׁעַ קֶשֶׁר, אֲשֶׁר שָׁלַח מַלְאָכִים אֶל-סוֹא מֶלֶךְ-מִצְרַיִם, וְלֹא-הֶעֱלָה מִנְחָה לְמֶלֶךְ אַשּׁוּר, כְּשָׁנָה בְשָׁנָה;

"But the king of Assyria found treachery in Hoshea, for he had sent messengers to So, king of Egypt, and offered no tribute to the king of Assyria, as he had done year by year ." (2 Kings 17:4, ESV)

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 9:41 AM, r12a <ishida at w3.org<mailto:ishida at w3.org>> wrote:
On 26/09/2016 13:21, Bob Richmond wrote:
So I've created a Browser Test Page for Hieroglyphic in Unicode
development <http://www.egpz.com/Page/UnicodeDevTest>to make it simple
to check if your web browser works. Billions of devices are fine but I’d
like to know of any problems members of the group may have using web
fonts so I’d appreciate if people could give it a try.


More about web fonts on my blog post Unicode Hieroglyphs in web
browsers: Web Fonts
<http://hieroglyphseverywhere.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/unicode-hieroglyphs-in-web-browsers-web.html>.

hello Bob,

i'm not clear about what the page is meant to be testing.

is the page intended to check whether a user can see hieroglyphs using the web font, or that they can see them arranged in quadrats, or both?

i see all the characters, but i can't tell whether that's because i have a couple of hieroglyphic fonts already on my system, or whether the webfont is providing the glyphs (except for the glyph with a green background).  (I also looked at the source briefly, but couldn't see any @font-face rule, and the descriptions of the page in your blog and emails don't mention what web font is being used. I'd like to know what font was used.)

i also see the characters arranged in quadrats, but i don't know whether what i'm seeing is fully correct. If the quadrat behaviour is something your page is testing, i suggest that you include images of the expected outcome, so that people can compare their results with the expectations.

it's also not clear in the descriptions whether the quadrat behaviour is produced by the web font or scripting.  I suspect it's the latter. It would be good to make that clear.

finally, it may also be useful for the reader to indicate that you are using the U+F510F [Supplementary Private Use Area-A] code point to represent glyph with the green background, rather than simply an alternate font glyph for U+13139 EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH F051.

hope that helps,
ri






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