[Egyptian] Ligature joiners - evidence needed please

[Nigel Strudwick]

Bob, I’d have more chances of understanding this (as an Egyptologist) if I could see it. Could you be able to post a sketch of what you mean? Handwritten would do.

Nigel

On 20 Jul 2016, at 10:58, Bob Richmond <bobqq at live.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> I’ve not yet seen any data, evidence or rationale about the suggested 5 positional ligature system discussed at Cambridge. I don’t have unlimited time to research all this myself and I’m not an Egyptologist. Technically such a system can be added to current controls but it needs to be well-defined, detailed and justified if it is to be submitted. [This is what I’m doing with the group-joiners].
>  
> One part I’m reasonably happy that I understand is ligatures involving the cobra-pattern (also seen with tongue). This ligature has a special role in orthography, especially in column vertical writing and ‘tall groups’. I’ve seen plenty of instances.
>  
> Conversely there is the bird pattern a+b, b+c or a+b+c where b is a bird. Pretty much all I’ve seen is a and c as individual hieroglyphs. What other bird patterns attested? Groups?
>  
> There are characters in Hieroglyphica e.g. HG-D0160 to HG-D0188 and many more HG arrangements that could be implemented using controls (as with monograms). If this is what some of these proposed controls are about I think next step repertoire might be a better context in which to discuss the topic to begin with.
>  
> Mark-Jan – you’ve been using your ‘insert’ operator in RES typography for many years. It would be great to see a list of at least some of the clusters you’ve encountered.
>  
> Anyway, great if anyone has any examples/evidence to share.
>  
> Bob
>  
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