<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div>Hi guys!</div><div><br class=""></div><div>(no worries, this is my last mail on the topic, enough time and energy spent on this.)</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><b class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Third</span></b></p></div></blockquote><div class="">And your solution is a good one — I have absolutely no doubt — as long as you do not want to *search* for the relative position of signs with respect to one another. This is however a piece of information that is, like it or not, part of the ‘orthographic’ system of ancient Egyptian and to which we want to have access (see further Simon’s mail earlier this week).</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In general, the spatial distribution of signs (i.e. the "grouping") has *no meaning at all* in Egyptian. No semantic, phonological, or morphological information is coded in the relative position of the signs.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>This is patently inaccurate. </div><div>Three simple examples should suffice here (sorry for providing textbook examples known by all).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>1 - spatial distribution affecting phono-morphology</div><div>[t] followed by [w] can only be read /tw/, while t&w can be /tw/ or /wt/ => same ‘linear order’, 1 reading in one case, 2 readings in the other (referring potentially to 2+ morphemes).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>2 - spatial distribution as a condition for reading (and adding semantic value)</div><div></div></body></html>