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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div>Hi guys,</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry to have kept you waiting. Here are the main conclusions and next steps (bold) as I interpreted them. I hope you will find them helpful. </div><div><br></div><div>Have a great day,</div><div>Heleen</div><div><br></div><div>
<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'>Repertoire</span></p>
<ol><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>A list will be made with the references to the publication of an original text (photo or facsimile, not a print font like eg IFAO) for each hieroglyph from the proposal of Michel Suignard. Background: The characters in the proposal of Michel do not have sources yet. These sources are needed in order for the proposal to be accepted. </span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Michel will do the coordination for this list with input from Stephane/Serge/Simon/Mark-Jan</span></b></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>The hieroglyphs with references can be added in tranches</span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>The first tranche will be the proposal of Michael Everson on hieratic hieroglyphs from Moller to which the hieratic dot will be added</span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Stephane/Serge/Simon/Mark-Jan will review the proposal of Michael and add any other hieroglyphs that they are missing including the references before mid August</span></b></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Michael will finish the proposal in the second half of August</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'> so that it can be included in the Unicode </span><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>meeting on the 6<sup>th</sup> of September</span></div></li></ol>
<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'><br>
Monograms: </span></p>
<ol><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>I think the consensus is to make
a list of attested combinations and then decide on the approach, either
monograms (A) or the use of a control character (B). This list will be used as
a proposal for monograms (A) or will be used by developers for their fonts (B).
Most Egyptologists were in favor of solution B because of the ease of searching
and the ease of implementation (in fonts and not in Unicode proposals). </span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Stephane/Serge/Simon/Mark-Jan
will make a list and share it with the group. Then a decision is made for A or
B</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'> </span></div></li></ol>
<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'><br></span></p><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'>Control characters</span></p>
<ol><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>On the last day of the
conference there seemed to be consensus on the control characters, which
Michael summed up by mail as: “The proposal is to remove the LIG character from
the ballot and to add in 7 more, the two group controls of Bob, and then the
four corner and the center controls”</span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'></span><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>It was agreed that this
proposal will be finished in August, I thought by Michael, and discussed on the
Unicode meeting on the 6<sup>th</sup> of September. Now it seems over the mail
that several people are working on it separately</span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Suggestion: let Michael, Bob
and Mark-Jan do a conference call or so soon to A. make sure there is one
proposal that all agree on and can be shared with the group and B. give
guidelines to Simon/Serge/Stephane for what examples they should look in their
databases </span></b></div></li></ol>
<p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'><br></span></p><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; line-height: normal;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
NL'>Input methods and fonts</span></p>
<ol><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>So and Marwan have integrated
their input systems and font into SINUHE</span></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'></span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>So/Marwan could you share with
the us the online location so we can start using it?</span></b></div></li><li><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; line-height: normal; text-indent: -18pt;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'></span></b><span lang="EN-US" style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:NL'>Bob has made and shared an
experimental font for us to use</span></div></li></ol>
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