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		<title>Comment on Ailice’s Àventurs in Wunnerland by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2011/06/25/ailice%e2%80%99s-aventurs-in-wunnerland/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more discussion can be found at http://www.thescotsforum.com/showthread.php?1474-Evertype-Alice-in-Wonderland-in-Scots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more discussion can be found at <a href="http://www.thescotsforum.com/showthread.php?1474-Evertype-Alice-in-Wonderland-in-Scots" rel="nofollow">http://www.thescotsforum.com/showthread.php?1474-Evertype-Alice-in-Wonderland-in-Scots</a>!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keep Calm and Carry On by Tweets that mention Keep Calm and Carry On -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2010/11/18/keep-calm-and-carry-on-2/comment-page-1/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Keep Calm and Carry On -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 13:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Ruth F Long, wyvernfriend, DKC, Michael Everson, Christian Cooke and others. Christian Cooke said: RT @elana: Keep calm and carry on for Ireland: http://bit.ly/aUVPaV [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Ruth F Long, wyvernfriend, DKC, Michael Everson, Christian Cooke and others. Christian Cooke said: RT @elana: Keep calm and carry on for Ireland: <a href="http://bit.ly/aUVPaV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aUVPaV</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Latin and Greek: A problem for the IPA by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2010/07/23/latin-and-greek-a-problem-for-the-ipa/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John has followed up his posting: http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/disunification-2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John has followed up his posting: <a href="http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/disunification-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/disunification-2.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Latin and Greek: A problem for the IPA by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2010/07/23/latin-and-greek-a-problem-for-the-ipa/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pleased to see that John Wells has begun discussion of this matter on his own blog: http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/disunification-1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pleased to see that John Wells has begun discussion of this matter on his own blog: <a href="http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/disunification-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/disunification-1.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on New covers for Alice! by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2010/03/04/new-covers-for-alice/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think so. I&#039;ve used the colours from &quot;The Nursery &#039;Alice&#039;&quot; for Alice&#039;s dress and the Rabbit&#039;s livery. So far the Irish and Cornish editions are available with the revised cover. Esperanto will be soon, and English thereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think so. I&#39;ve used the colours from &quot;The Nursery &#39;Alice&#39;&quot; for Alice&#39;s dress and the Rabbit&#39;s livery. So far the Irish and Cornish editions are available with the revised cover. Esperanto will be soon, and English thereafter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New covers for Alice! by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2010/03/04/new-covers-for-alice/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho, much better!</description>
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		<title>Comment on A New Alice in the Old Wonderland by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/12/16/a-new-alice-in-the-old-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book is on archive.org, but there is no corrected plain text version anywhere apart from my own machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book is on archive.org, but there is no corrected plain text version anywhere apart from my own machine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A New Alice in the Old Wonderland by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/12/16/a-new-alice-in-the-old-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, since this novel is in the public domain, is the plain text of it available online anywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, since this novel is in the public domain, is the plain text of it available online anywhere?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wonderland Revisited and the Games Alice Played There by Keith Sheppard</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/11/01/wonderland-revisited-and-the-games-alice-played-there/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Sheppard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, your comments are much appreciated and I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With regard to Alice&#039;s character, my defence is in my introduction where I said I was not attempting to imitate Carroll&#039;s work in the way a forger imitates an old master. I wrote it primarily for my own daughter and secondly for children in general - but today&#039;s children. In Carroll&#039;s time, being a girl child was rather different.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CLD lived in a chauvenist age and openly voiced sexist views.  For example, he referred to having nothing to do as &quot;the sorest scourge of feminine humanity&quot;. I don&#039;t think such attitudes, or making Alice the archtypical dumb blonde, would be appropriate for a modern children&#039;s book, which is what I intended to write, albeit in a homage to Carroll&#039;s style.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the book also appeals to adult Alice aficionados that&#039;s a collateral benefit. Nevertheless, your points are well taken and I hope my &quot;modernisation&quot; of Alice&#039;s character didn&#039;t affect your enjoyment too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, your comments are much appreciated and I&#39;m glad you enjoyed the book.</p>
<p>With regard to Alice&#39;s character, my defence is in my introduction where I said I was not attempting to imitate Carroll&#39;s work in the way a forger imitates an old master. I wrote it primarily for my own daughter and secondly for children in general &#8211; but today&#39;s children. In Carroll&#39;s time, being a girl child was rather different.</p>
<p>CLD lived in a chauvenist age and openly voiced sexist views.  For example, he referred to having nothing to do as &quot;the sorest scourge of feminine humanity&quot;. I don&#39;t think such attitudes, or making Alice the archtypical dumb blonde, would be appropriate for a modern children&#39;s book, which is what I intended to write, albeit in a homage to Carroll&#39;s style.</p>
<p>If the book also appeals to adult Alice aficionados that&#39;s a collateral benefit. Nevertheless, your points are well taken and I hope my &quot;modernisation&quot; of Alice&#39;s character didn&#39;t affect your enjoyment too much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wonderland Revisited and the Games Alice Played There by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/11/01/wonderland-revisited-and-the-games-alice-played-there/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t surprising. I would venture to say that &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; Alice imitator has his or her own take on Alice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re right about the &quot;cluelessness&quot; of Carroll&#039;s Alice; but as Carolyn Sigler has shown, other authors using Alice as a calendar or using Wonderland have very often reacted to (or against) Carroll&#039;s Alice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only 30 years after Wonderland was published, Anna Richards sent a different Alice into Wonderland, Alice Lee -- who takes control of her experiences there. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I doubt that any of the &quot;Alice imitators&quot; has written an Alice who was &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; like Carroll&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#39;t surprising. I would venture to say that <i>every</i> Alice imitator has his or her own take on Alice.</p>
<p>You&#39;re right about the &quot;cluelessness&quot; of Carroll&#39;s Alice; but as Carolyn Sigler has shown, other authors using Alice as a calendar or using Wonderland have very often reacted to (or against) Carroll&#39;s Alice.</p>
<p>Only 30 years after Wonderland was published, Anna Richards sent a different Alice into Wonderland, Alice Lee &#8212; who takes control of her experiences there. </p>
<p>I doubt that any of the &quot;Alice imitators&quot; has written an Alice who was <i>exactly</i> like Carroll&#39;s.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A New Alice in the Old Wonderland by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/12/16/a-new-alice-in-the-old-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. &lt;i&gt;Eh?&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Hey?&lt;/i&gt; are different for me, too. In the four instances where they occurred in Richards&#039; book, however, it seemed to me that the right tag to use for a modern reader was the former. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly (I suppose), &lt;i&gt;eh&lt;/i&gt; occurs once in Alice (in &lt;i&gt;eh, stupid?&lt;/i&gt;) and not at all in Looking-Glass (unless you count &lt;i&gt;Be-e-ehh!&lt;/i&gt;); &lt;i&gt;hey&lt;/i&gt; occurs in neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. <i>Eh?</i> and <i>Hey?</i> are different for me, too. In the four instances where they occurred in Richards&#39; book, however, it seemed to me that the right tag to use for a modern reader was the former. </p>
<p>Interestingly (I suppose), <i>eh</i> occurs once in Alice (in <i>eh, stupid?</i>) and not at all in Looking-Glass (unless you count <i>Be-e-ehh!</i>); <i>hey</i> occurs in neither.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A New Alice in the Old Wonderland by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/12/16/a-new-alice-in-the-old-wonderland/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Eh?&lt;/i&gt; is by no means &lt;i&gt;hey?&lt;/i&gt;  They have quite different connotations.  (In my fiction writing, I have two characters one of whom uses &lt;i&gt;eh?&lt;/i&gt; as a tag question, Canadian-style, and the other uses &lt;i&gt;hey?&lt;/i&gt; as a tag, hayseed-style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Eh?</i> is by no means <i>hey?</i>  They have quite different connotations.  (In my fiction writing, I have two characters one of whom uses <i>eh?</i> as a tag question, Canadian-style, and the other uses <i>hey?</i> as a tag, hayseed-style.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wonderland Revisited and the Games Alice Played There by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/11/01/wonderland-revisited-and-the-games-alice-played-there/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I bought this (from amazon.com) and read it.  It&#039;s very well done, except for one major complaint: the author has missed Alice completely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Alice isn&#039;t clever.  Alice doesn&#039;t get it.&lt;/i&gt;  Alice is a conventional stuffy snob of a little Victorian girl.  The wordplay and other things (including the death jokes) are almost always over her head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this book, Alice becomes part of the Wonderland set: she says things like &quot;Oh, I see&quot;.  But the real Alice never does see.  Still, I&#039;m glad I read it, as many of the conceits are very clever indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I bought this (from amazon.com) and read it.  It&#39;s very well done, except for one major complaint: the author has missed Alice completely.</p>
<p><i>Alice isn&#39;t clever.  Alice doesn&#39;t get it.</i>  Alice is a conventional stuffy snob of a little Victorian girl.  The wordplay and other things (including the death jokes) are almost always over her head.</p>
<p>In this book, Alice becomes part of the Wonderland set: she says things like &quot;Oh, I see&quot;.  But the real Alice never does see.  Still, I&#39;m glad I read it, as many of the conceits are very clever indeed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/10/25/through-the-looking-glass-and-what-alice-found-there/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been publishing Alices since 2003, I think, when the first Irish translation came out.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There by Tortoiseshell</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/10/25/through-the-looking-glass-and-what-alice-found-there/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Tortoiseshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting - I would never have thought that this was an Evertype project.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gobeithio bod pethau&#039;n iawn gyda chi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ch ch ch ch ch&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your old Celtic Comrade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Ernie.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; I would never have thought that this was an Evertype project.</p>
<p>Gobeithio bod pethau&#39;n iawn gyda chi.</p>
<p>ch ch ch ch ch</p>
<p>Your old Celtic Comrade,</p>
<p>&quot;Ernie.&quot;</p>
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		<title>Comment on tlhIngan Hol yIghItlh! by opoudjis</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/01/14/tlhingan-hol-yighitlh/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>opoudjis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A bit more impenetrable is a post from 2001 in Lojban mentioning me and Klingon together. &quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You should have asked! It&#039;s just saying, you can discuss anything in the wiki as long as it&#039;s in Lojban, and Klingon was no less legitimate a topic than you. It&#039;s the description of you in Lojban that you should be noting: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Michael+Everson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;A bit more impenetrable is a post from 2001 in Lojban mentioning me and Klingon together. &quot;</p>
<p>You should have asked! It&#39;s just saying, you can discuss anything in the wiki as long as it&#39;s in Lojban, and Klingon was no less legitimate a topic than you. It&#39;s the description of you in Lojban that you should be noting: <a href="http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Michael+Everson" rel="nofollow">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Michael+Everson</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Counting preservation in West Virginia by Harry Campbell</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2007/12/03/counting-preservation-in-west-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fascinating to think of these counting systems travelling as far as places like West Virginia, and still being remembered to this day (if only as a curiosity).</description>
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		<title>Comment on Counting preservation in West Virginia by Harry Campbell</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2007/12/03/counting-preservation-in-west-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way it &quot;jingles&quot; is immediately recognisable as a one of those shepherd&#039;s counting systems (which are not just Cumbrian, see the fuller coverage at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Tan_Tethera). Permit me a little correction on the Welsh: it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;pump&lt;/i&gt; [pɪmp] not &lt;i&gt;pemp&lt;/i&gt;. In your transcriptions, &lt;i&gt;wyth&lt;/i&gt; is [uiθ] not [wɪθ] and &lt;i&gt;pymtheg&lt;/i&gt; (etc) should [ˈpəmθeg] not [ˈpɪmθeg].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way it &quot;jingles&quot; is immediately recognisable as a one of those shepherd&#39;s counting systems (which are not just Cumbrian, see the fuller coverage at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Tan_Tethera" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Tan_Tethera</a>). Permit me a little correction on the Welsh: it&#39;s <i>pump</i> [pɪmp] not <i>pemp</i>. In your transcriptions, <i>wyth</i> is [uiθ] not [wɪθ] and <i>pymtheg</i> (etc) should [ˈpəmθeg] not [ˈpɪmθeg].</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lyver Pejadow rag Kenyver Jorna: Cornish Daily Prayer by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/04/07/lyver-pejadow-rag-kenyver-jorna-cornish-daily-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ch ch ch ch ch! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ch ch ch ch ch! <img src='http://evertype.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Lyver Pejadow rag Kenyver Jorna: Cornish Daily Prayer by Carwyn Fowler</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/04/07/lyver-pejadow-rag-kenyver-jorna-cornish-daily-prayer/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Carwyn Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyfryd iawn!</description>
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		<title>Comment on tlhIngan Hol yIghItlh! by Melroch</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2009/01/14/tlhingan-hol-yighitlh/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Melroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar idea for revamping Klingon &#039;Latinization&#039; when I first looked into Klingon years ago.  I was Latin-1 oriented at the time so I had thl &gt; ç, ng &gt; ñ, Q &gt; x.  The latter seems sensible to me still, as the capital barred-tail Ꝗ is hard to distinguish from ordinary Q, though I&#039;m all for ng &gt; ŋ and thl &gt; ł.  At the time Mark Shoulson informed me that most every Klingon beginner wants to somehow revamp the &#039;Latinization&#039;!  Honestly I don&#039;t care that much — Klingon doesn&#039;t have the right Lámatyáve for my me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar idea for revamping Klingon &#39;Latinization&#39; when I first looked into Klingon years ago.  I was Latin-1 oriented at the time so I had thl &gt; ç, ng &gt; ñ, Q &gt; x.  The latter seems sensible to me still, as the capital barred-tail Ꝗ is hard to distinguish from ordinary Q, though I&#39;m all for ng &gt; ŋ and thl &gt; ł.  At the time Mark Shoulson informed me that most every Klingon beginner wants to somehow revamp the &#39;Latinization&#39;!  Honestly I don&#39;t care that much — Klingon doesn&#39;t have the right Lámatyáve for my me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Counting preservation in West Virginia by My Name is Iosifina</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2007/12/03/counting-preservation-in-west-virginia/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>My Name is Iosifina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, someone else knows how to count with teen, tain,....My grandmother from eastern Kentucky taught me how, and I&#039;m the only grandchild to still have it memorized. Just curious to see if anyone else knew this jingle, I googled it, and your blog appeared.&lt;br/&gt;--Iosifina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, someone else knows how to count with teen, tain,&#8230;.My grandmother from eastern Kentucky taught me how, and I&#8217;m the only grandchild to still have it memorized. Just curious to see if anyone else knew this jingle, I googled it, and your blog appeared.<br />&#8211;Iosifina</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rehabilitating two Cyrillic characters by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2006/11/19/rehabilitating-two-cyrillic-characters/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viktor... can we find the DZH in anything other than Faulmann?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viktor&#8230; can we find the DZH in anything other than Faulmann?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spoofing with Unicode by Andrew West</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2008/08/15/spoofing-with-unicode/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute, we have had U+1D09 (LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED I) since 4.0, and U+1D77 (LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED G) since 4.1, and now that 5.1 is released we also have U+A781 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED L.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So I think that the comment should be:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;ʞɔɐqpǝǝɟ uʍop ǝpᴉsdn&lt;br/&gt;• +++++++ɐ ¡uoᴉʇɔɐsuɐɹʇ ʇɐǝɹᵷ &lt;br/&gt;¡ʇuǝɯʎɐd ʇsɐɟ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ noʎ ʞuɐɥʇ &#039;ppɐ oʇ pǝʇuɐʍ osꞁɐ ᴉ&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;which displays OK with latest versions of both Everson Mono and Code2000 (except for the vertical alignment of the turned g).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute, we have had U+1D09 (LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED I) since 4.0, and U+1D77 (LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED G) since 4.1, and now that 5.1 is released we also have U+A781 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED L.</p>
<p>So I think that the comment should be:</p>
<p><b>ʞɔɐqpǝǝɟ uʍop ǝpᴉsdn<br />• +++++++ɐ ¡uoᴉʇɔɐsuɐɹʇ ʇɐǝɹᵷ <br />¡ʇuǝɯʎɐd ʇsɐɟ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ noʎ ʞuɐɥʇ &#8216;ppɐ oʇ pǝʇuɐʍ osꞁɐ ᴉ</b></p>
<p>which displays OK with latest versions of both Everson Mono and Code2000 (except for the vertical alignment of the turned g).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spoofing with Unicode by Michael Everson</title>
		<link>http://evertype.com/blog/blog/2008/08/15/spoofing-with-unicode/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Everson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s used Hebrew final nun for the inverted l in &quot;also&quot; but of course now he should use the Lhuydian inverted l at U+A781.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s used Hebrew final nun for the inverted l in &#8220;also&#8221; but of course now he should use the Lhuydian inverted l at U+A781.</p>
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